Request : Mix wet/dry controls on every FX and peak meters

[GargoyleStudio]

Hi,

I've always thought that it'd be really useful to have some extra features which apply to every FX plugin, wet/dry mix being one of them. So, you can mix the effect in with the direct signal from wet to dry. Very useful for instant parallel compression techniques (which are very popular these days), and also say for adding just a hint of distortion to things when the distortion plugin doesn't offer wet/dry itself. If you use offline processing you'll know what I mean because this window has extra sliders at the bottom for this.

The other thing that i think would be really useful would be in and out meters on every plugin. Some plugins don't like to be overdriven (perhaps they're old??) but you can't always find out the signal level between plugins in a stack without directly inserting a peak or VU meter (which takes up an extra plugin space).

As for the overhead caused by these things, I guess we'd need an on/off switch so we only use them when they're needed.

Gotta say that I've just upgraded to Cb5 and it's impressive!

Mike.

[visa tapani]

[Sound Drifter]

Could be useful indeed, but I still prefer tracks paralleled. It's a bit easier for me to see and control when writing a mix with my control surfaces.
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[GargoyleStudio]

Wow, this is an old thread of mine!! Cheers for resurrecting it.

He means that he'd rather have two tracks side-by-side, one with no FX on and the other with FX. Then he can see the balance of both easily - at least that what I interpret.

I keep mentioning wet/dry on inserts every-so-often... I spend a lot of time automating channel echo mix and fortunately most echos I use have a mix control so that's cool. But, no compressors do, and that's mainly why I'd want it. Also there's no true way of bypassing insert (or any other) FX in cubase. You either turn it of which clicks, or you press the other button, and that does something weire, it actually holds onto the audio that the plugin would have played and then plays it when you re-enable it - which is rather stupid because it's now in the wrong place... So, a wet/dry mix control would cover all bases.

Just in case Steinberg are listening, I'd envisage a Cubase wet/dry mix slider on the outside of the plugin window, say by the side of the Preset widgets. This could be then be applicable to every plugin. Kind of like the one on the Offline Process window.

Oh, and another thing if anyone's listening, can we have a solo/mute button put on the VSTi devices window for each VSTi - that'd make it really easy to solo a VSTi (and all it's channels).

Oh, and while we're on soloing, can you make the mute and solo defeat buttons back into being orange and yellow like they used to be please??

I should open new threads to petition for these things I suppose...

Mike.

[parris]

+1
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[Sound Drifter]

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[Sound Drifter]

Well the overhead.... not a problem here. Remember, you can have all sorts of mixer views stored. So you can store by section, like geetars, vox... etc. For me, remembering all the plugins that have blends is a pain. Most of my full band production projects have 30+ channels. Mixer views are essential. The other thing is I use a control surface where plugin parameter adjustment is convoluted. Separate faders are a must for workflow speed.

To each their own though. Either way is totally useable. For me, the organization and speed of separate tracks works really well. Ya just have to dig in a little to streamline the workflow.
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[DNA]

I guess it's very unconventional for insert effects to have dry/wet balance but how freaking great would that be? We live in a world if digital DAW's where anything is possible and this kind of flexibility would be used by just about anyone. Most delay and reverb plugins already have dry/wet balance but this is because they were originally created to be used in this fashion. Parallel techniques aren't exactly that new so I'm surprised that this hasn't been implemented by now. If most compressor plugin manufacturers are still not including dry/wet knobs then why doesn't the host add it in so that all existing plugins (not just compressors) have this available? I would use the heck out of this feature. It's currently still a nightmare to try to send an entire multirack of drums to a parallel compressor in Cubase.

+1 for me

dna

[dz81]

+1

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[DNA]

Visa, sorry, I meant that it was unconventional for a "host" program to offer a "built in" dry/wet slider on every insert fx channel. Logic's compressor plugin offers a dry/wet slider
but Logic itself does not offer it by standard on every insert fx interface. This makes it impossible to use dry/wet slider on other fx that don't already have it built into their interface. Also, by unconventional, I meant that it was never implemented on a hardware mixer like an SSL. Insert fx have always been thought of and mostly used as "100% wet fx". It would be awesome if Steinberg ignored conventions for a second and added this feature in. Just because it isn't this way on a "hardware" mixer, doesn't mean it shouldn't be.

Bring on the dry/wet slider built into every fx slot please Steinberg.

dna

[visa tapani]

Yeah, I understood your point about unconventionality like you explained it, but was mistaken about Logic. EnergyXT has had it for years, though! But in any case it would be a cool and welcome addition...

[DNA]

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[VariMu]