MBox 2 Crashes Cubase (please Help)

frenic · New Member Joined: 02 Sep 2008 Posts: 7

I installed the core audio only from the website and it shows up in my I/O setting it has even given me sound.

But when its selected it causes alot or problems and crashes.

it even crashes my system preferences when i select it.

I have got a brand new i7 quad imac running snow lep

Is this a problem with the i7

if so how do i sort it?

also I tried to install Sub Boom Bass and it wont appear in the VI pannel (it dose appear in my audio fx............. odd)

sunshrined · Member Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 481

altus · Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:28 pm Post subject:

The Mbox2 is a terribly unstable and poorly engineered piece of crap, both hardware- and driver-wise. A friend gave me his when he got a 003 and I could not use it reliably on OS X nor Windows at all. For example, because of the poorly-written driver, if I unplugged it before I shut own my Mac, it would cause a kernel panic (this was with PT LE 8.0.3). Sorry to rain on your parade, but I think you might be better off swapping it for another interface...
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SteveInChicago · Member Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 259

altus · Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:34 am Post subject:

frenic · New Member Joined: 02 Sep 2008 Posts: 7

Thanks so much for your advice

[can you run itunes or other audio software without crashing that software when the audio is output via the mbox? ]

yes Itunes and quicktime have both worked with the mbox

[/what else is crashing?]

Once I have selected the Mbox2 apps will crash on boot with a "not responding" and I have to force quit I don't get full kernal panics.

Cubase its self crashed with the spinning wheel of death on "BAIOS"

I followed you instructions unfortunately same problems are occurring. I haven't yet tried this onyx program where do i find that and what does it do?

Thanks again for you help
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SteveInChicago · Member Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 259

Were sort of poking around in the dark here. The first thing to do would be to try the mbox 2 on a different system. if you get the same result maybe the device is messed up. If you don't have another computer available the thing to do would be to initialize the Cubase 5 preferences, and other things mentioned at this link:

https://www.steinberg.net/index.php?id=2022&tx_p77sbknowledgebase_pi1%5Barticle%5D=224&tx_p77sbknowledgebase_pi1%5B%5D=&L=1&#2

Really, this stuff is complex and the way the files work together get quite convoluted.

Like I said earlier, I've been using my mbox 2 on my current OS X install and previously on a Windows XP machine and apart from certain limitations, using the device has been transparent.

Good luck.
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sunshrined · Member Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 481

SteveInChicago · Member Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 259

FYI onyx also lets you change settings you normally can't, with potential to screw things up too. Best to learn about it beforehand.
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sunshrined · Member Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 481

Weasel · Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:47 pm Post subject:

I've been reading this thread and when SteveInChicago says: "and apart from certain limitations" I was curious as to what those were.
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SteveInChicago · Member Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 259

On my Windows machine it worked fine with Cubase and Pro Tools, but not with other sound apps like itunes or media player.
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frenic · New Member Joined: 02 Sep 2008 Posts: 7

Ok I have got it to work with Cubase by leaving the Mbox 2 unplugged until I boot Cubase. Then once loaded I plug in the interface and select it in the devise set up.

Both inputs and outputs work as normal.

Its not ideal but at least I can start using my new cubase.

It must be a compatibility problem with the operating system because once the MBox2 is selected if you click on sound in the SP you get the spinning wheel and have to force quit.

I hope didgi design will bring out an updated core audio driver.

Thanks for all of your help.
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SteveInChicago · Member Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 259

Y'know frenic, you have the wrong digidesign software version installed for your system. Did you notice that?
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frenic · New Member Joined: 02 Sep 2008 Posts: 7

What software do I need??
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SteveInChicago · Member Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 259

When I checked it out at Digidesign they say it's version 8.0.3 for Intel machines running 10.6.x.

I don't know that it would help your problem for sure, but here's the link: http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?langid=100&navid=54&itemid=40792
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frenic · New Member Joined: 02 Sep 2008 Posts: 7

Yes steve good work wasent there before.

I installed it and it has sorted some problems

unfortunately im still getting issues. now that I have installed new drivers the core audio seems to not like my web browser(safari).

Also it still crashes my SP when I go to look at the sound setting to with between Mbox and internal.

Also since installing the new driver if I do get a crash then try and restart I get a kenal panic.

Its so annoying I works in part but make my whole computer so unstable.

seriously thinking of buying a new interface.
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SteveInChicago · Member Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 259

It sounds like there are possibly multiple problems on your system.

I would do all the OS X maintenance tasks at this point. Repair permissions since you installed some software, start up in safe mode (this forces a disk repair utility to be run at startup), then restart in normal mode, and also delete the boot caches on the mac.

Files that load at boot time are saved, in a manner of speaking, in a cache, for future boots and the result is faster boot times. Occasionally things can get screwed up with this cache and deleting it can fix strange problems. When you boot the computer afterwards there is no cache, so the machine boots using the original files.

On 10.5.8 the caches are located at /System/Library/Extensions.mkext I don't know whether that location has changed in OS 10.6. If you try to delete it the system will ask for your password, and then move it to the trash.

The utility Onyx can do this for you. It would probably be a very good idea to read up a bit on all this before doing it. I think Onyx itself has some documentation about it. Personally I use Onyx, but I figured out what was doing behind the scenes before using it. It's not dangerous in itself, but can become so if you're not paying attention, or if you have a moment where you say to yourself, "hm, what's this? It couldn't hurt if I just click on it."

...

"Oops."

Good luck
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